During this whole thread about poorly planted boxes, I can't believe
that nobody has brought this up yet...but
Why do we assume that just because we can't find a box that it's
missing?
Maybe...we just aren't looking in the right spot.
Don't always blame the placer!
poorly planted boxes
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Started on 2007-09-24
poorly planted boxes
From: inkydinkystamper (inkydinkystamper@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 01:02:51 UTC
RE: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Jars Of Clay (jarsofclaylb@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 10:34:54 UTC
thank you! we recently had somebody say they were absolutely looking in the right spot for our box and "a wasp nest was there and the box was missing - you need to remove the box from the list" The same day we got 4 emails that the box had been found and was in good condition - no mention of the wasps. why blame the placer? (especially to that extreme?)Jars
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.comFrom: inkydinkystamper@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:02:51 +0000Subject: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
During this whole thread about poorly planted boxes, I can't believe that nobody has brought this up yet...butWhy do we assume that just because we can't find a box that it's missing?Maybe...we just aren't looking in the right spot.Don't always blame the placer!
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To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.comFrom: inkydinkystamper@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:02:51 +0000Subject: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
During this whole thread about poorly planted boxes, I can't believe that nobody has brought this up yet...butWhy do we assume that just because we can't find a box that it's missing?Maybe...we just aren't looking in the right spot.Don't always blame the placer!
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Jodi Hocking (momthemartian67@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 04:06:55 UTC-07:00
When I cant find a box, I usually just send an email to the planter and ask for clarification, I dont want them to tell me where the box is..but sometimes I just cant tell if its me or the clues or if something happened so Ill send an email and ask questions to see if Im on the right track.
As an example, we were looking for a box that required a compass (which we didnt have LOL), but we are pretty good at making our own rough handwritten compass, and its worked for us (yes, we are getting one lol)...so, the reading was supposed to point to exactly where the box was, which was a tree in the middle of a parking lot surrounded by smaller trees and shrubs. We thought we saw the spot right away at the base of the center tree but when we got there, it was FILLED with apples and acrorns and nuts. We dug quite a bit and couldnt find so looked elsewhere. When I got home, I emailed them and verified that THAT was the tree and went back again. STILL cant find it and its packed evern more fully. Thinking it may still be in there but buried under the winter food storage, I emailed and explained we tried finding it but are uncomfortable really stirring up that much damage to an animals environment. I suggested they make the box temporarily unavailable
and offered to go back in the spring and see if we can find it.
I think communication is the key :-) I always email and politely know if plantars need any maintenance..but USUALLY assume that Im the problem in the finding...unless Ive exhausted all my resources and still cant find it..
----- Original Message ----
From: Jars Of Clay
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:34:54 AM
Subject: RE: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
thank you! we recently had somebody say they were absolutely looking in the right spot for our box and "a wasp nest was there and the box was missing - you need to remove the box from the list" The same day we got 4 emails that the box had been found and was in good condition - no mention of the wasps. why blame the placer? (especially to that extreme?)Jars
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.comFrom: inkydinkystamper@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:02:51 +0000Subject: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
During this whole thread about poorly planted boxes, I can't believe that nobody has brought this up yet...butWhy do we assume that just because we can't find a box that it's missing?Maybe...we just aren't looking in the right spot.Don't always blame the placer!
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As an example, we were looking for a box that required a compass (which we didnt have LOL), but we are pretty good at making our own rough handwritten compass, and its worked for us (yes, we are getting one lol)...so, the reading was supposed to point to exactly where the box was, which was a tree in the middle of a parking lot surrounded by smaller trees and shrubs. We thought we saw the spot right away at the base of the center tree but when we got there, it was FILLED with apples and acrorns and nuts. We dug quite a bit and couldnt find so looked elsewhere. When I got home, I emailed them and verified that THAT was the tree and went back again. STILL cant find it and its packed evern more fully. Thinking it may still be in there but buried under the winter food storage, I emailed and explained we tried finding it but are uncomfortable really stirring up that much damage to an animals environment. I suggested they make the box temporarily unavailable
and offered to go back in the spring and see if we can find it.
I think communication is the key :-) I always email and politely know if plantars need any maintenance..but USUALLY assume that Im the problem in the finding...unless Ive exhausted all my resources and still cant find it..
----- Original Message ----
From: Jars Of Clay
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:34:54 AM
Subject: RE: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
thank you! we recently had somebody say they were absolutely looking in the right spot for our box and "a wasp nest was there and the box was missing - you need to remove the box from the list" The same day we got 4 emails that the box had been found and was in good condition - no mention of the wasps. why blame the placer? (especially to that extreme?)Jars
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.comFrom: inkydinkystamper@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:02:51 +0000Subject: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
During this whole thread about poorly planted boxes, I can't believe that nobody has brought this up yet...butWhy do we assume that just because we can't find a box that it's missing?Maybe...we just aren't looking in the right spot.Don't always blame the placer!
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Angela/Xeen (angela@resirem.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 04:50:57 UTC-07:00
I thought I had mentioned that when I was talking about poorly planted
boxes (or poorly re-hidden... some Planters have mentioned them going to
check on them and they were out in the open). Maybe I didn't.
Sometimes we can safely assume the box is missing because we are staring
at THE ONE and THE ONLY spot that the box can be in.
For example: This box is under the red tree with fairies dancing around
it in So and So Park in Blah City. Hmm. There's ONE tree in the area,
its RED, and its got dancing fairies around it. There's ONE city by
that name, there's ONE park by this name, and its a 10 foot by 10 foot
wide park... okay I'm exaggerating... a little :)
Sometime I think Whitey and I have looked in the wrong spot. So some we
end up marking as missing, and some we mark as "try again". There's one
spot we've gone back to three times and although we're pretty sure its
gone, there's still a chance that we're just missing it (between
somewhat shoddy directions and us, who knows?). I'm thinking of
messaging the person about it and having them confirm its status.
Sometimes we can blame the placer, the last person to find it, or
ourselves. And in the end its not a big deal... except to the poor
Placer. Its gotta suck having to hear your box is gone and not knowing
why :-/
But yeah. We don't always blame the Placer. We loves the Placers and
actually have fun with shoddy directions (which doesn't happen a lot) ^-^
Good question, though :)
-Xeen
who is still sad to see missing boxes due to whatever reason and still
doesn't understand why that thought is so BAD... lol
>
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.comFrom: inkydinkystamper@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:02:51 +0000Subject: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
>
>
>
>
> During this whole thread about poorly planted boxes, I can't believe that nobody has brought this up yet...butWhy do we assume that just because we can't find a box that it's missing?Maybe...we just aren't looking in the right spot.Don't always blame the placer!
>
>
>
boxes (or poorly re-hidden... some Planters have mentioned them going to
check on them and they were out in the open). Maybe I didn't.
Sometimes we can safely assume the box is missing because we are staring
at THE ONE and THE ONLY spot that the box can be in.
For example: This box is under the red tree with fairies dancing around
it in So and So Park in Blah City. Hmm. There's ONE tree in the area,
its RED, and its got dancing fairies around it. There's ONE city by
that name, there's ONE park by this name, and its a 10 foot by 10 foot
wide park... okay I'm exaggerating... a little :)
Sometime I think Whitey and I have looked in the wrong spot. So some we
end up marking as missing, and some we mark as "try again". There's one
spot we've gone back to three times and although we're pretty sure its
gone, there's still a chance that we're just missing it (between
somewhat shoddy directions and us, who knows?). I'm thinking of
messaging the person about it and having them confirm its status.
Sometimes we can blame the placer, the last person to find it, or
ourselves. And in the end its not a big deal... except to the poor
Placer. Its gotta suck having to hear your box is gone and not knowing
why :-/
But yeah. We don't always blame the Placer. We loves the Placers and
actually have fun with shoddy directions (which doesn't happen a lot) ^-^
Good question, though :)
-Xeen
who is still sad to see missing boxes due to whatever reason and still
doesn't understand why that thought is so BAD... lol
>
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.comFrom: inkydinkystamper@yahoo.comDate: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:02:51 +0000Subject: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
>
>
>
>
> During this whole thread about poorly planted boxes, I can't believe that nobody has brought this up yet...butWhy do we assume that just because we can't find a box that it's missing?Maybe...we just aren't looking in the right spot.Don't always blame the placer!
>
>
>
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Rachel Henry (remcat@comcast.net) |
Date: 2007-09-24 08:30:21 UTC-04:00
<
the right spot for our box and "a wasp nest was there and the box was
missing - you need to remove the box from the list" The same day we got 4
emails that the box had been found and was in good condition - no mention of
the wasps. why blame the placer? (especially to that extreme?)Jars>>
I always start with the theory that it is probably my fault if I can't find
a box. I only move on to "the box might be missing" when I see an empty
box-shaped indentation in the leaves/dirt/pine needles, or (in one case)
fragments of destroyed box scattered around.
missing - you need to remove the box from the list" The same day we got 4
emails that the box had been found and was in good condition - no mention of
the wasps. why blame the placer? (especially to that extreme?)Jars>>
I always start with the theory that it is probably my fault if I can't find
a box. I only move on to "the box might be missing" when I see an empty
box-shaped indentation in the leaves/dirt/pine needles, or (in one case)
fragments of destroyed box scattered around.
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 08:45:01 UTC-05:00
> Sometimes we can safely assume the box is missing because
> we are staring at THE ONE and THE ONLY spot that the box can
> be in.
People can "assume" whatever they want, but the "safety" of said
assumptions is logically fallacious. Just like the existence of
God (and I have no intent to get into a religious debate), it is
not possible to prove non-existence, only existence. Likewise
with letterboxes, obviously.
If people want to make assumptions, and get in the planters' faces,
that's their choice, but I find it to be bad etiquette, bad karma,
and discouraging (at least in my case), from planting more. I do
this for fun. If it becomes unfun because whiny seekers are
getting in my face (demanding "quality checks", whining about long
hikes near dark and not finding anything but rocks, and other noise),
I'll find something else to do with my precious time (which I
suppose is for the best; hence not listing on the web sites,
to keep these people out of my life, for one reason).
It really bothers me when someone sends an e-mail to me: "I'm not
asking for hints, but ...; or I know I was in the right place, and
your box isn't there". Such a sender is doing nothing but
asking for hints. Any communication is an information leak.
If this is to be simulated treasure hunting (and I think only
a handful of us play it that way), then part of simulated
treasure hunting is making the determination with the information
at hand and your own brain whether or not the box is missing.
I guess very few see this as a fun and interesting aspect of
the pastime, and would rather just click that "contact the placer"
button. There is no "contact the placer" button in simulated
treasure hunting.
> For example: This box is under the red tree with fairies dancing
> around it in So and So Park in Blah City. Hmm. There's ONE tree
> in the area, its RED, and its got dancing fairies around it.
> There's ONE city by that name, there's ONE park by this name, and
> its a 10 foot by 10 foot wide park... okay I'm exaggerating... a
> little :)
This is a perfect example. Thanks for bringing it up. Clever
clue writers can create this effect. Trust me, I've seen it done
a few times. Such clue writers need good spam filters to keep
whiners insisting the box is missing out of their inbox.
It can be a lonely life playing the game as simulated treasure
hunting (the primary premise of which is no contact or information
leak other than the map between the hider and placer, because, duh,
the hider of the treasure _didn't want_ it found by others), but
that is the game to me, and it is what it is, and we call it
something different to attempt to avoid confusion for those who
enjoy "letterboxing" for what it has become.
I realise part of the reason "letterboxing" is not simulated
treasure hunting is because of man's social nature and this need
for contact -- attempting to do simulated treasure hunting as a
game, and determine if it is a viable game, has a very high cost
in this regard, which the purists of that game accept. The
preferred social model for simulated treasure hunters is
for _seekers to socialize together_, especially given that the
problems can be so difficult (and more heads are better than one,
especially if the problem takes 6 months to solve), but the
letterboxing culture in some quarters is to try to find 20 in a
day, and if not possible, hit that "contact the placer" button.
Disclaimer: I'm not "attacking" anyone, or disparaging those who
play the game differently (but am entitled to be annoyed at people
who whine at me or claim the box is missing when it is clear from
their e-mail they are not within 100 miles of the place, despite
the fact that it is the "only" place it could be). Yes, boxes go
missing, and I realise it annoys some, but I am entitled to my
opinion that it is a healthy attitude to just see that as an
interesting part of the game, and simply request that those who
don't see it that way desist from whining at me, asking for hints,
etc. My only goal is to show an alternate take on what the pastime
can be to some people. Take it or leave it :)
The closest thing in the real world that average people like me can
do is ghost town hunting, which is what I did before this. Anyone
who is a ghost town hunter can see where my attitude comes from,
nothing more. There is no "contact the placer" button. The "boxes"
go missing over time. "Clues", information, maps, terrain, etc., all
decay over time. That's all it is, and IMHO is a much cooler game.
The longer things age, the _more interesting_ unraveling these decays
becomes. My attitude does not come for arrogance or any other
nonsense that people have claimed. Simply an attempt to simulate this
sort of game. History, information theory, decay, the outdoors, etc.
Cheers
Randy
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: (barrudaki@comcast.net) |
Date: 2007-09-24 14:47:52 UTC
I recently did maintenance on my letterbox and found it completely in the open, just sitting on a bunch of rocks.
Not sure if it was the last placer but I do find it a bit disrespectful for someone to intentionally leave another boxers plant out in the open. Not sure if this is a trend, if someone didn't like that it was store bought stamp even though it's marked as such, if the person didn't like something about the box or if they read the boards and didn't like my remarks.
But it is pretty amazing I had very little problems with that box and now suddenly I find I have to do maintenance more than normal on it since I started being on these boards. Has this ever been a problem with any one else? If someone is deliberately trying to sabbatoge my letterbox, then I am asking kindly for it to stop. There is no reason to go out and intentionally destroy someone's plant just because you may not agree with them on some chat board.
Barrudaki
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Not sure if it was the last placer but I do find it a bit disrespectful for someone to intentionally leave another boxers plant out in the open. Not sure if this is a trend, if someone didn't like that it was store bought stamp even though it's marked as such, if the person didn't like something about the box or if they read the boards and didn't like my remarks.
But it is pretty amazing I had very little problems with that box and now suddenly I find I have to do maintenance more than normal on it since I started being on these boards. Has this ever been a problem with any one else? If someone is deliberately trying to sabbatoge my letterbox, then I am asking kindly for it to stop. There is no reason to go out and intentionally destroy someone's plant just because you may not agree with them on some chat board.
Barrudaki
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Angela/Xeen (angela@resirem.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 12:54:54 UTC-07:00
To everything you just said, Randy... Wow. Just WOW.
-xeen
Randy Hall wrote:
>> Sometimes we can safely assume the box is missing because
>>
> > we are staring at THE ONE and THE ONLY spot that the box can
> > be in.
>
> People can "assume" whatever they want, but the "safety" of said
> assumptions is logically fallacious. Just like the existence of
> God (and I have no intent to get into a religious debate), it is
> not possible to prove non-existence, only existence. Likewise
> with letterboxes, obviously.
>
>
-xeen
Randy Hall wrote:
>> Sometimes we can safely assume the box is missing because
>>
> > we are staring at THE ONE and THE ONLY spot that the box can
> > be in.
>
> People can "assume" whatever they want, but the "safety" of said
> assumptions is logically fallacious. Just like the existence of
> God (and I have no intent to get into a religious debate), it is
> not possible to prove non-existence, only existence. Likewise
> with letterboxes, obviously.
>
>
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Angela/Xeen (angela@resirem.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 12:59:25 UTC-07:00
Thats a huge bummer! I can't imagine why anybody would be so disrespectful.
Unless it was just somebody who found it by accident and didn't know
what to do with it... I don't know. I can't comprehend why somebody
would do that.
-Xeen
barrudaki@comcast.net wrote:
> I recently did maintenance on my letterbox and found it completely in the open, just sitting on a bunch of rocks.
>
> Not sure if it was the last placer but I do find it a bit disrespectful for someone to intentionally leave another boxers plant out in the open. Not sure if this is a trend, if someone didn't like that it was store bought stamp even though it's marked as such, if the person didn't like something about the box or if they read the boards and didn't like my remarks.
>
> But it is pretty amazing I had very little problems with that box and now suddenly I find I have to do maintenance more than normal on it since I started being on these boards. Has this ever been a problem with any one else? If someone is deliberately trying to sabbatoge my letterbox, then I am asking kindly for it to stop. There is no reason to go out and intentionally destroy someone's plant just because you may not agree with them on some chat board.
>
> Barrudaki
>
>
>
>
Unless it was just somebody who found it by accident and didn't know
what to do with it... I don't know. I can't comprehend why somebody
would do that.
-Xeen
barrudaki@comcast.net wrote:
> I recently did maintenance on my letterbox and found it completely in the open, just sitting on a bunch of rocks.
>
> Not sure if it was the last placer but I do find it a bit disrespectful for someone to intentionally leave another boxers plant out in the open. Not sure if this is a trend, if someone didn't like that it was store bought stamp even though it's marked as such, if the person didn't like something about the box or if they read the boards and didn't like my remarks.
>
> But it is pretty amazing I had very little problems with that box and now suddenly I find I have to do maintenance more than normal on it since I started being on these boards. Has this ever been a problem with any one else? If someone is deliberately trying to sabbatoge my letterbox, then I am asking kindly for it to stop. There is no reason to go out and intentionally destroy someone's plant just because you may not agree with them on some chat board.
>
> Barrudaki
>
>
>
>
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee Hedge (lady_prisspott@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 20:19:20 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall wrote:
>
>
> > To everything you just said, Randy... Wow. Just WOW.
>
> Wait 'til you read Her Ladyship's replies :) Letting the
> second one perculate for a bit ...
>
Oh, dearest Randy,
"Say it ain't so." Surely, her Ladyship hasn't stumped you already, why, we've only just begun
to dangle participles and exploit semantics. We've got loads more pomposity in our
respective windbags. Bartleby was just now bringing the tea.
Respectfully,
Lady Prisspott
PS You misspelled percolate.
>
>
> > To everything you just said, Randy... Wow. Just WOW.
>
> Wait 'til you read Her Ladyship's replies :) Letting the
> second one perculate for a bit ...
>
Oh, dearest Randy,
"Say it ain't so." Surely, her Ladyship hasn't stumped you already, why, we've only just begun
to dangle participles and exploit semantics. We've got loads more pomposity in our
respective windbags. Bartleby was just now bringing the tea.
Respectfully,
Lady Prisspott
PS You misspelled percolate.
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Angela/Xeen (angela@resirem.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 13:26:19 UTC-07:00
Why, Randy? Is she going to start assuming she knows me and start making
left handed comments about me also?
-Xeen
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall wrote:
>
>>
>>> To everything you just said, Randy... Wow. Just WOW.
>>>
>> Wait 'til you read Her Ladyship's replies :) Letting the
>> second one perculate for a bit ...
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
left handed comments about me also?
-Xeen
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall
>
>>
>>> To everything you just said, Randy... Wow. Just WOW.
>>>
>> Wait 'til you read Her Ladyship's replies :) Letting the
>> second one perculate for a bit ...
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: (barrudaki@comcast.net) |
Date: 2007-09-24 20:31:31 UTC
Hi Xeen,
It is possible someone who is not a letterboxer found it. I usually try to check on it every two weeks but I when I saw it out in the open last week I rechecked again this Saturday and there it was back out in the open. It's under a bunch of rocks and would be rather difficult for an animal to pick up the rocks and place letterbox in same open spot where I found it before. I placed the box in March and had no problems with it until last week. I'm contemplating pulling the box and replanting else where.
-Barrudaki
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From: Angela/Xeen
Thats a huge bummer! I can't imagine why anybody would be so disrespectful.
Unless it was just somebody who found it by accident and didn't know
what to do with it... I don't know. I can't comprehend why somebody
would do that.
-Xeen
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It is possible someone who is not a letterboxer found it. I usually try to check on it every two weeks but I when I saw it out in the open last week I rechecked again this Saturday and there it was back out in the open. It's under a bunch of rocks and would be rather difficult for an animal to pick up the rocks and place letterbox in same open spot where I found it before. I placed the box in March and had no problems with it until last week. I'm contemplating pulling the box and replanting else where.
-Barrudaki
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Thats a huge bummer! I can't imagine why anybody would be so disrespectful.
Unless it was just somebody who found it by accident and didn't know
what to do with it... I don't know. I can't comprehend why somebody
would do that.
-Xeen
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Lady Hydrangea Prisspott nee Hedge (lady_prisspott@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 20:39:12 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall wrote:
>
>
> > "Say it ain't so." Surely, her Ladyship hasn't stumped you already,
>
> No, the cable guy came ...
>
Did you prove to the cable guy that your cable reception was nonexistent?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
>
>
> > "Say it ain't so." Surely, her Ladyship hasn't stumped you already,
>
> No, the cable guy came ...
>
Did you prove to the cable guy that your cable reception was nonexistent?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 16:03:52 UTC-05:00
> To everything you just said, Randy... Wow. Just WOW.
Wait 'til you read Her Ladyship's replies :) Letting the
second one perculate for a bit ...
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 16:24:34 UTC-05:00
> "Say it ain't so." Surely, her Ladyship hasn't stumped you already,
No, the cable guy came ...
> PS You misspelled percolate.
Yeah, without the spell-checker, I'm toast. My spelling skills are far
worse than my logic and rhetoric ...
Cheers
Randy
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 16:44:33 UTC-05:00
> Did you prove to the cable guy that your cable reception was nonexistent?
There's not enough free energy in the universe for that. It has been a
problem for 9 months.
In any case, I withdrawal; Your Ladyship makes excellent points, and
this is certainly the wrong forum for me to continue to engage them.
Cheers
Randy
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Angela/Xeen (angela@resirem.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 14:53:08 UTC-07:00
Innteresting. Has anybody been writing anything in it? has anything
been damaged or turned up missing?
How odd.
-xeen
barrudaki@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Xeen,
>
> It is possible someone who is not a letterboxer found it. I usually try to check on it every two weeks but I when I saw it out in the open last week I rechecked again this Saturday and there it was back out in the open. It's under a bunch of rocks and would be rather difficult for an animal to pick up the rocks and place letterbox in same open spot where I found it before. I placed the box in March and had no problems with it until last week. I'm contemplating pulling the box and replanting else where.
>
> -Barrudaki
>
>
been damaged or turned up missing?
How odd.
-xeen
barrudaki@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Xeen,
>
> It is possible someone who is not a letterboxer found it. I usually try to check on it every two weeks but I when I saw it out in the open last week I rechecked again this Saturday and there it was back out in the open. It's under a bunch of rocks and would be rather difficult for an animal to pick up the rocks and place letterbox in same open spot where I found it before. I placed the box in March and had no problems with it until last week. I'm contemplating pulling the box and replanting else where.
>
> -Barrudaki
>
>
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: (barrudaki@comcast.net) |
Date: 2007-09-24 22:10:09 UTC
Lost log in was around Sept. 16th. Before that I want to say around the 9th. I checked it the 17th it was out in the open, I checked it again on the 22nd again out in the open on the same rock as last time. I'm going to pull it just avoid any further complications.
-Barrudaki
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Angela/Xeen
> Innteresting. Has anybody been writing anything in it? has anything
> been damaged or turned up missing?
>
> How odd.
>
> -xeen
>
> barrudaki@comcast.net wrote:
> > Hi Xeen,
> >
> > It is possible someone who is not a letterboxer found it. I usually try to
> check on it every two weeks but I when I saw it out in the open last week I
> rechecked again this Saturday and there it was back out in the open. It's under
> a bunch of rocks and would be rather difficult for an animal to pick up the
> rocks and place letterbox in same open spot where I found it before. I placed
> the box in March and had no problems with it until last week. I'm contemplating
> pulling the box and replanting else where.
> >
> > -Barrudaki
> >
> >
>
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-Barrudaki
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Angela/Xeen
> Innteresting. Has anybody been writing anything in it? has anything
> been damaged or turned up missing?
>
> How odd.
>
> -xeen
>
> barrudaki@comcast.net wrote:
> > Hi Xeen,
> >
> > It is possible someone who is not a letterboxer found it. I usually try to
> check on it every two weeks but I when I saw it out in the open last week I
> rechecked again this Saturday and there it was back out in the open. It's under
> a bunch of rocks and would be rather difficult for an animal to pick up the
> rocks and place letterbox in same open spot where I found it before. I placed
> the box in March and had no problems with it until last week. I'm contemplating
> pulling the box and replanting else where.
> >
> > -Barrudaki
> >
> >
>
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Re: poorly planted boxes
From: Rusty Judd (r2judd@bestweb.net) |
Date: 2007-09-24 19:32:11 UTC-04:00
Wow and I thought my Concise Directions comment got a whirlwind of activity
RJ
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: alwayschaos (alwayschaos@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 23:38:57 UTC
I'll buy you both a beverage of your choice (and more than one if need
be) if you'll let me sit in on the rest of this conversation! Neither
of you fail to please, however I fear this mere mortal would need
sleep before the conversation were done. :o)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall wrote:
>
>
> > Did you prove to the cable guy that your cable reception was
nonexistent?
>
> There's not enough free energy in the universe for that. It has
been a
> problem for 9 months.
>
> In any case, I withdrawal; Your Ladyship makes excellent points, and
> this is certainly the wrong forum for me to continue to engage them.
>
> Cheers
> Randy
>
be) if you'll let me sit in on the rest of this conversation! Neither
of you fail to please, however I fear this mere mortal would need
sleep before the conversation were done. :o)
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Randy Hall
>
>
> > Did you prove to the cable guy that your cable reception was
nonexistent?
>
> There's not enough free energy in the universe for that. It has
been a
> problem for 9 months.
>
> In any case, I withdrawal; Your Ladyship makes excellent points, and
> this is certainly the wrong forum for me to continue to engage them.
>
> Cheers
> Randy
>
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Suzanne Coe (wilmcoe@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 18:15:31 UTC-07:00
I think the conversation would probably sound better without sleep & with beer.
alwayschaos wrote: I'll buy you both a beverage of your choice (and more than one if need
be) if you'll let me sit in on the rest of this conversation! Neither
of you fail to please, however I fear this mere mortal would need
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of you fail to please, however I fear this mere mortal would need
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Suzanne Coe (wilmcoe@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 20:38:52 UTC-07:00
Hey, hey, hey--that's not whining! That's one of my favorite letterboxing stories:
"Irene & Suzanne Go Mapsurfing & Almost Spend the Night in the Woods." Don't remember any rocks tho, just trees. Lots & lots of fallen trees.... =)
Randy Hall wrote: whining about long
hikes near dark
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Angela/Xeen (angela@resirem.com) |
Date: 2007-09-24 21:14:03 UTC-07:00
It most definitely wasn't whining on my part. It was kinda fun :)
-Xeen
Suzanne Coe wrote:
> Hey, hey, hey--that's not whining! That's one of my favorite letterboxing stories:
> "Irene & Suzanne Go Mapsurfing & Almost Spend the Night in the Woods." Don't remember any rocks tho, just trees. Lots & lots of fallen trees.... =)
>
> Randy Hall wrote: whining about long
> hikes near dark
>
>
>
>
-Xeen
Suzanne Coe wrote:
> Hey, hey, hey--that's not whining! That's one of my favorite letterboxing stories:
> "Irene & Suzanne Go Mapsurfing & Almost Spend the Night in the Woods." Don't remember any rocks tho, just trees. Lots & lots of fallen trees.... =)
>
> Randy Hall
> hikes near dark
>
>
>
>
poorly planted boxes
From: csb_bc (csb_bc@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-25 06:28:54 UTC
When I first started letterboxing I searched for a box by "The Secret
Gardeners". Every other letterbox I went after I was able to find, but
this one eluded me. It took three trips for me to find it, and when I
did.... "ok, now I get it!" Very clever clues.
I did think that I was in the right place; and I did think that I had
found the "spot".
I'm a very humble letterboxer... CSB bc
Gardeners". Every other letterbox I went after I was able to find, but
this one eluded me. It took three trips for me to find it, and when I
did.... "ok, now I get it!" Very clever clues.
I did think that I was in the right place; and I did think that I had
found the "spot".
I'm a very humble letterboxer... CSB bc
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Angela/Xeen (angela@resirem.com) |
Date: 2007-09-25 00:26:39 UTC-07:00
We haven't come across any challenging clues yet :-(
-xeen
csb_bc wrote:
> When I first started letterboxing I searched for a box by "The Secret
> Gardeners". Every other letterbox I went after I was able to find, but
> this one eluded me. It took three trips for me to find it, and when I
> did.... "ok, now I get it!" Very clever clues.
>
> I did think that I was in the right place; and I did think that I had
> found the "spot".
>
> I'm a very humble letterboxer... CSB bc
>
>
-xeen
csb_bc wrote:
> When I first started letterboxing I searched for a box by "The Secret
> Gardeners". Every other letterbox I went after I was able to find, but
> this one eluded me. It took three trips for me to find it, and when I
> did.... "ok, now I get it!" Very clever clues.
>
> I did think that I was in the right place; and I did think that I had
> found the "spot".
>
> I'm a very humble letterboxer... CSB bc
>
>
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: CSB (csb_bc@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2007-09-25 00:44:41 UTC-07:00
Have you come across any boxes that you assumed were missing?
Angela/Xeen wrote: We haven't come across any challenging clues yet :-(
-xeen
csb_bc wrote:
> When I first started letterboxing I searched for a box by "The Secret
> Gardeners". Every other letterbox I went after I was able to find, but
> this one eluded me. It took three trips for me to find it, and when I
> did.... "ok, now I get it!" Very clever clues.
>
> I did think that I was in the right place; and I did think that I had
> found the "spot".
>
> I'm a very humble letterboxer... CSB bc
>
>
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-xeen
csb_bc wrote:
> When I first started letterboxing I searched for a box by "The Secret
> Gardeners". Every other letterbox I went after I was able to find, but
> this one eluded me. It took three trips for me to find it, and when I
> did.... "ok, now I get it!" Very clever clues.
>
> I did think that I was in the right place; and I did think that I had
> found the "spot".
>
> I'm a very humble letterboxer... CSB bc
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Angela/Xeen (angela@resirem.com) |
Date: 2007-09-25 01:28:52 UTC-07:00
Yup. Like I mentioned earlier, there's been some where we weren't sure
if it was missing or we were just being retarded, but the clues were
pointing right -there- ... and I mean -obvious- clues. There's been
some where we -know- it was missing because there was only one possible
place it could be.
Oh, and I take that challenging clues bit back! There was a mystery box
we worked on just for the heck of it and we're pretty sure we know where
its at. Unfortunately its as far away from us as it can possibly be
without leaving the state. But it was fun to look up. It took a few
days and I learned a lot of history in the meantime.
-Xeen
CSB wrote:
> Have you come across any boxes that you assumed were missing?
>
> Angela/Xeen wrote: We haven't come across any challenging clues yet :-(
>
> -xeen
>
>
>
>
>
if it was missing or we were just being retarded, but the clues were
pointing right -there- ... and I mean -obvious- clues. There's been
some where we -know- it was missing because there was only one possible
place it could be.
Oh, and I take that challenging clues bit back! There was a mystery box
we worked on just for the heck of it and we're pretty sure we know where
its at. Unfortunately its as far away from us as it can possibly be
without leaving the state. But it was fun to look up. It took a few
days and I learned a lot of history in the meantime.
-Xeen
CSB wrote:
> Have you come across any boxes that you assumed were missing?
>
> Angela/Xeen
>
> -xeen
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: R (ontario_cacher@yahoo.ca) |
Date: 2007-09-25 11:34:30 UTC-04:00
Yes odd indeed. I wouldn't rule out an animal - something big like a coyote perhaps, strong enough to push away rocks to get at the box. Any teeth or claw marks? As Xeen asked, did anyone log in since you replaced the box in its hiding spot?
You could experiment and use tape to hold the lid to the container (just a couple of small pieces should do). If an animal is moving the box then they would likely just dig it out and leave it in the open. If it was a human they may open the box first and thus unseal the tape (can't see why they'd dig out the box, not open it then leave it exposed especially if they are a letterboxer and not a non-boxer).
Lone R
Angela/Xeen wrote: Innteresting. Has anybody been writing anything in it? has anything
been damaged or turned up missing?
How odd.
-xeen
barrudaki@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Xeen,
>
> It is possible someone who is not a letterboxer found it. I usually try to check on it every two weeks but I when I saw it out in the open last week I rechecked again this Saturday and there it was back out in the open. It's under a bunch of rocks and would be rather difficult for an animal to pick up the rocks and place letterbox in same open spot where I found it before. I placed the box in March and had no problems with it until last week. I'm contemplating pulling the box and replanting else where.
>
> -Barrudaki
>
>
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You could experiment and use tape to hold the lid to the container (just a couple of small pieces should do). If an animal is moving the box then they would likely just dig it out and leave it in the open. If it was a human they may open the box first and thus unseal the tape (can't see why they'd dig out the box, not open it then leave it exposed especially if they are a letterboxer and not a non-boxer).
Lone R
Angela/Xeen
been damaged or turned up missing?
How odd.
-xeen
barrudaki@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Xeen,
>
> It is possible someone who is not a letterboxer found it. I usually try to check on it every two weeks but I when I saw it out in the open last week I rechecked again this Saturday and there it was back out in the open. It's under a bunch of rocks and would be rather difficult for an animal to pick up the rocks and place letterbox in same open spot where I found it before. I placed the box in March and had no problems with it until last week. I'm contemplating pulling the box and replanting else where.
>
> -Barrudaki
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: (barrudaki@comcast.net) |
Date: 2007-09-25 16:25:09 UTC
Hi R,
No teeth or claw marks on it. I did replace the box itself because the top of it cracked from being hidden under the rocks. I rehide the box again on Saturday and I'll be going by today to remove the box , I've already archived it. I'm going to chalk it up to a bad spot and move on. I had series I planned on putting out that did have carved stamps in them but I am debating if I should rethink what type of boxes I want them to be. I'm now leaning toward doing mystery boxes and having any one interested email me for the first set of clues instead of putting them out on a website.
-Barrudaki
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From: R
Yes odd indeed. I wouldn't rule out an animal - something big like a coyote perhaps, strong enough to push away rocks to get at the box. Any teeth or claw marks? As Xeen asked, did anyone log in since you replaced the box in its hiding spot?
You could experiment and use tape to hold the lid to the container (just a couple of small pieces should do). If an animal is moving the box then they would likely just dig it out and leave it in the open. If it was a human they may open the box first and thus unseal the tape (can't see why they'd dig out the box, not open it then leave it exposed especially if they are a letterboxer and not a non-boxer).
Lone R
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No teeth or claw marks on it. I did replace the box itself because the top of it cracked from being hidden under the rocks. I rehide the box again on Saturday and I'll be going by today to remove the box , I've already archived it. I'm going to chalk it up to a bad spot and move on. I had series I planned on putting out that did have carved stamps in them but I am debating if I should rethink what type of boxes I want them to be. I'm now leaning toward doing mystery boxes and having any one interested email me for the first set of clues instead of putting them out on a website.
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From: R
Yes odd indeed. I wouldn't rule out an animal - something big like a coyote perhaps, strong enough to push away rocks to get at the box. Any teeth or claw marks? As Xeen asked, did anyone log in since you replaced the box in its hiding spot?
You could experiment and use tape to hold the lid to the container (just a couple of small pieces should do). If an animal is moving the box then they would likely just dig it out and leave it in the open. If it was a human they may open the box first and thus unseal the tape (can't see why they'd dig out the box, not open it then leave it exposed especially if they are a letterboxer and not a non-boxer).
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Re: [LbNA] poorly planted boxes
From: Nathan Brown (Cyclonic07@aol.com) |
Date: 2007-09-26 02:33:59 UTC-04:00
Suzanne Coe wrote:
> Hey, hey, hey--that's not whining! That's one of my favorite letterboxing stories:
> "Irene & Suzanne Go Mapsurfing & Almost Spend the Night in the Woods." Don't remember any rocks tho, just trees. Lots & lots of fallen trees.... =)
>
>
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
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> Hey, hey, hey--that's not whining! That's one of my favorite letterboxing stories:
> "Irene & Suzanne Go Mapsurfing & Almost Spend the Night in the Woods." Don't remember any rocks tho, just trees. Lots & lots of fallen trees.... =)
>
>
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
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